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Because US civilians are educated, middle class people sitting quite comfortably in a nice house, with a nice car, in nice suburban area?

 

I don't know, but the Arabs you've mentioned are in the middle of a revolution. They have a good cause - in a sense. 

 

There's a massive sense of paranoia surrounding some Americans who hold guns. No, you don't need them to protect yourself or your family or whatever. Europeans and Canadians will tell you.



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The regulation that has been proposed wouldn't actually prevent those types of accidents. What's been proposed is a pretty small and insignificant piece of regulation, which is why I don't understand the outrage about it from anyone.

More strict regulation would. I know that that's not viable in the US right now, but I still think it's a good idea. And it's what this guy talked about, in terms like "I don't care if guns are banned or not", it basically could mean any kind of regulation or restriction. I took it to be more strict regulation than what's currently being proposed in the US :) 



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Uhh, no... Pretty much all I said I don't care if guns are banned or not. The people who are fucked up enough to do shit like that are going to find a way to do it either way, whether they do it with a gun bought legally, a gun bought illegally, a bomb, fire, a robot dinosaur with claws made out of razor blades that spits napalm, or whatever. What SHOULD be done is give people like this better access to mental health care, and if they're batshit insane enough that they would do something like kill a bunch of kindergartners, keep them isolated from the outside world in general, not just from weapons.

 

 

 

Well... I guess I can't say I didn't know what I was getting into in this thread :lol:

No one is expecting gun control to work over night. If the US ever manages to start cracking down on guns, it's going to be a long time before the situation is under control. You are right, there are simply too many guns in circulation, and therefore it would be very easy to pick one up illegally. It will take years to get these things out of circulation, but it can be done. You just have to look at any other country with gun control laws to see the benefits. Yes, you get nutjobs everywhere, but it's a hell of a lot harder to go on a rampage with a knife or a baseball bat. And if guns weren't so readily available, perhaps people wouldn't bother going on rampages, because the semi automatic machine gun isn't just sitting in their living room. I wonder how many of these shootings are planned, or done on impulse? Cracking down on guns would certainly stop most of the impulse shootings.

 

I'm not talking about banning guns altogether. We have guns here in the UK. You have to have a firearms license a valid reason for owning one and you get checked up on by the police pretty regularly. The guns we have here are much more sensible, e.g., you can't buy a shotgun that will fire more than 2 rounds. The idea being that going on a massacre is much harder if you have to reload all the time...

 

Just PLEASE get rid of those awful things that can fire as quickly and as many times as you can pull the trigger......and for those who say they need those sorts of weapons for hunting, the answer is simple: become a better shot.

 

Some of the NRA nutters are saying that even bringing in more rigorous background checks would be "infringing on their freedom" or some bullshit like that. Surely having your head blown off is the ultimate loss of freedom and trumps a couple of background checks.


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Because US civilians are educated, middle class people sitting quite comfortably in a nice house, with a nice car, in nice suburban area?

 

I don't know, but the Arabs you've mentioned are in the middle of a revolution. They have a good cause - in a sense. 

 

There's a massive sense of paranoia surrounding some Americans who hold guns. No, you don't need them to protect yourself or your family or whatever. Europeans and Canadians will tell you.

Mostly poking fun, didn't expect that to contribute in anyway to the discussion. If you haven't noticed I like to slander Obama just for the fun of it while having no merit to do so.

 

Yes, some Americans are a bit paranoid, a lot not. And they may not be a necessity for self/home defense but by god are they nice to know you have them, and all around just nice to have :)




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