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Yes it does have place because last time I checked I still have a uterus and ovaries and I have a say. I don't know why you guys find it easier to jump on someone for making a comment (which was not entirely serious) than replacing one word with another.


If you're not being entirely serious, then why bother posting at all? Clearly no one else finds it funny. Using the terms man, woman, father and mother in a debate about abortion isn't fucking discrimination.

I AM NOT A WOMAN.


Good for you.

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Nope, you weren't discriminating. At least right up until I posted, that's when you all got caught up.

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Your first post was clearly written to start shit. Feel free to keep posting about it, I can just keep warning you.

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Oh, feel free if that helps keep your ego in check. Actually, I was thinking you'd probably continue warning me because you'd anticipate what I'd post next.

Apparently not.

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If telling yourself that it's about my ego and not the fact that you are, once again, going off about something in an unrelated thread makes you feel better, go right ahead. I'm just asking that we keep this Abortion thread to discussions about abortion, not gender politics. As I said before, feel free to make a thread about it, it's obviously an important issue to you, but it doesn't. belong. here.

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Yes it does because I have a uterus.

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Using the terms man, woman, father and mother in a debate about abortion isn't fucking discrimination.



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I don't think there are any pro-choice people who are going to say "Well, if the person with the uterus carrying the fetus identifies as a male, then they no longer should have access to abortion." Find me someone who says that, you won't. Therefore, it's fucking pointless.

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No one was (or is) discriminating.
In a thread about abortion it's not weird that people refer to people with uteruses who can get pregnant as "women" and refer to the people with penises who impregnate the other person in the relationship as "men", even though not all people who can get pregnant might identify as such. It's simply not possible to take in every single possibility for everything everywhere, and quite frankly, I don't think it's necessary in this particular debate. No one is saying that all people with uteruses (uteri?) identify as female.

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No one was acting like that. If I said "if a man kills someone," does that automatically mean that no one except men can commit murder? No. Similar concept with "if a woman gets pregnant." We say "woman" out of convenience, not out of a desire to marginalize gender-neutral and transgender people.

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Biologically speaking, women are the only ones who can get pregnant.

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I wasn't pointing it out because of fear of confusion. I know it seems unpracticle to you, and woman is of course a whole lot short than "the person who is pregnant", but it actually means a lot to some people that they're recognised in every life situation. You can't have an open society in which everyone is equal when you dismiss these matters out of inconvenience

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By all means then, let us just completely abolish pronouns altogether.

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Okay, how about we say "the woman, or this guy".

:rolleyes:

Seriously, I honestly believe that 99.9% of people on this forum are happy to embrace all people of all gender identities, but I'm not going to start listing each possible sub-category in a fucking argument about abortion. No. I'm going to talk about the mother and the father and the woman and the man, because biologically, you can't have an abortion without the biological-definition (the one that makes the sperm and the one that has the uterus) of each.

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I'm about ten seconds away from locking this thread. The last page and a half have had fuck-all to do with abortion. Get it back on track or lose it.

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omg, gender equality!!! Everybody run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Fuck it. This thread's done.

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