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I'm calling the FBI right now.

:lol:
If they went so far as to say what we can and can't say, I'm pretty sure assassinations would be occuring left and right.

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Aww, someone's having trouble using their words.

:lol:

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I'm calling the FBI right now.

nah, that's is a job for the thought police.

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I'm calling the FBI right now.

You do that :sherlock:

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I'm calling the FBI right now.

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ooooohhh someone's in ttrrrrooouuubblleee

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nah, that's is a job for the thought police.

1984<3
This reminds me of that book too xD

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The reason people feel this is censorship is because it's basically letting the media corporations write a law to punish people (in a pretty harsh way) if the government decides what you're doing online is copyright infringement. The reason it worries me is because technically, Warner Brothers could say that we're committing copyright Infringement because our site is based on Green Day's name, we post music and allow downloads for stuff they haven't or don't release (like live songs, some bootlegs, etc) and we also post a ton of photos and stuff like that. My understanding is that under this law it would be perfectly legal for the government to take down our site and force companies not to show it, and also force companies like Google to remove all links to us, basically removing any existence of our site from the Internet all because a media company disagreed with what we did.

Just look at the companies who support this versus those who oppose it. Its a pretty obvious example of businesses trying to get the government to enact a law for their betterment, not that of the citizens.

Summary and details about the bill from Open Congress
http://www.opencongr.../112-h3261/show

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The reason people feel this is censorship is because it's basically letting the media corporations write a law to punish people (in a pretty harsh way) if the government decides what you're doing online is copyright infringement. The reason it worries me is because technically, Warner Brothers could say that we're committing copyright Infringement because our site is based on Green Day's name, we post music and allow downloads for stuff they haven't or don't release (like live songs, some bootlegs, etc) and we also post a ton of photos and stuff like that. My understanding is that under this law it would be perfectly legal for the government to take down our site and force companies not to show it, and also force companies like Google to remove all links to us, basically removing any existence of our site from the Internet all because a media company disagreed with what we did.

Just look at the companies who support this versus those who oppose it. Its a pretty obvious example of businesses trying to get the government to enact a law for their betterment, not that of the citizens.

Summary and details about the bill from Open Congress
http://www.opencongr.../112-h3261/show

Wow...
That's pretty intense. Let's pray that they don't shut down GDC :) But even if GDA/GDC is technically illegal, that wouldn't have enough time to waste to be able to find GDC. So..
I think we're fine :) (Lets hope so :thumbsup: )

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Wow...
That's pretty intense. Let's pray that they don't shut down GDC http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... But even if GDA/GDC is technically illegal, that wouldn't have enough time to waste to be able to find GDC. So..
I think we're fine http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... (Lets hope so http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... )

The site itself isn't illegal. But it is a discussion forum. Most discussion forums allow a lot more than we do. However, we respect Green Day enough to prevent the piracy of their copyrighted music on our site.

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I am a part of demand progress (their logo was my old avatar) and I would suggest people join their email list if they want to follow this. Demand Progress has done amazing work in grassroots lobbying, their efforts have led to the Senate holding back this bill. What could have been rammed through days after its conception has now caught peoples' attention.

Government are servants of the people - not corporations.

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I am a part of demand progress (their logo was my old avatar) and I would suggest people join their email list if they want to follow this. Demand Progress has done amazing work in grassroots lobbying, their efforts have led to the Senate holding back this bill. What could have been rammed through days after its conception has now caught peoples' attention.

Government are servants of the people - not corporations.

Don't you know, John?? Corporations ARE people. The Supreme Court said so. And we all know the Supreme Court is never wrong. They're like the fucking Pope, but with the founding fathers instead of God.

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Wow...
That's pretty intense. Let's pray that they don't shut down GDC http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... But even if GDA/GDC is technically illegal, that wouldn't have enough time to waste to be able to find GDC. So..
I think we're fine http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... (Lets hope so http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/... )


Well, I'm not honestly worried that we'd get shut down, because we have a pretty good relationship with Green Day and Warner Brothers. But, let me assure you that they are well aware that we exist. And we are not illegal, not even technically, but this is why I don't support this law, because I think it's stupid that a media company gets to decide where that line is.
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Truth. There are lots of sites out there (band fan sites) that they don't know about- THAT ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL!

I'm not even sure how a media company would make that decision. their LAWYERS would make that decision (but of course, they would have a bias towards the media company. Still though, laws are laws and there is a lot of safe "fair use" out there.)

I'm not surprised at the companies supporting this (the MPAA, RIAA. No shit. They want their stuff protected.) But also, the companies opposing it are huge (bloomberg, google, yahoo? That's BIG.)

I would love to ask my BF about this, because he is pretty well versed in Fair Use and copyright laws (working both as an artist, web design/developer, and also a musician.) But- he's sleeping now :)

But- I agree that having the media companies be in charge of deciding what is legal and what is not is kind of hairy, because i think they would be more apt to jump all over people who aren't doing anything wrong and then we'll have common people with these insane fines over nothing. There is TONS of legal "fair use" out there.


(personally: my legal and "fair use" worries come from me using songs for my performances, especially since i'm at the point of *beginning* to make money off of gigs.)

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Censorship sucks. I have some stickers on my computer that my dad commented on. I didn't censor the work "fuck" on them. It's a fucking word. GET OVER IT.

But I really hope that my other favorite sites are ok. Like I know of one that s similar to this site. It's just really scary to see them being able to tell us what we can and can't say. =/

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This is just supporting my belief that the American flag will be replaced by the Pepsi logo one day. If the government keeps pandering to these companies... well, I don't want to know what will happen when my little sister is out of college. Who knows what we will have elected into office by then?!

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The reason people feel this is censorship is because it's basically letting the media corporations write a law to punish people (in a pretty harsh way) if the government decides what you're doing online is copyright infringement. The reason it worries me is because technically, Warner Brothers could say that we're committing copyright Infringement because our site is based on Green Day's name, we post music and allow downloads for stuff they haven't or don't release (like live songs, some bootlegs, etc) and we also post a ton of photos and stuff like that. My understanding is that under this law it would be perfectly legal for the government to take down our site and force companies not to show it, and also force companies like Google to remove all links to us, basically removing any existence of our site from the Internet all because a media company disagreed with what we did.

Just look at the companies who support this versus those who oppose it. Its a pretty obvious example of businesses trying to get the government to enact a law for their betterment, not that of the citizens.

Summary and details about the bill from Open Congress
http://www.opencongr.../112-h3261/show


Then you'd just get on your magic unicorn (twitter) and demand Billie Joe use his super powers (and super money) to influence warner to let us open it back up again....

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wasn't there some blacklist bill that proposed and shut down a few times already? i know this only because i signed a petition a while ago and they won't stop sending me emails now.

lawl this. The Demand Progress thing John mentioned. I keep getting emails too.


So this isn't exactly news... it'd suck a lot if the bills get passed though. Don't know how realistic it is (considering every few weeks a new bill seems to get put up and fails and repeat, according to the Demand Progress emails).
To sum up: Dislike, no educated opinion.

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Wow....
I watched the video and it seems pretty intense...
But still, how are they going to find GDA out of millions of sites? Plus, this probably won't even get passed.


Well, I'm not honestly worried that we'd get shut down, because we have a pretty good relationship with Green Day and Warner Brothers. But, let me assure you that they are well aware that we exist. And we are not illegal, not even technically, but this is why I don't support this law, because I think it's stupid that a media company gets to decide where that line is.

Thanks for clarifying. :)

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Can we please ban the people who just see the word "censorship" and automatically assume it is about profanity or M-rated video games or porn? Read the fucking website, will you?

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So porn isn't affected? Hallelujah.
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Government needs to GTFO.

This is the only place I can cuss and I aint fucking stopping.

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So porn isn't affected? Hallelujah.


As soon as I learned that, I stopped caring.


Edit: Wait, porn could be affected. If a porn company finds a site posting their stuff, they could have it taken down under the same law, I believe.

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Oh God, every time I want to go to the GDC homepage I land on the censorship website :lol:
Which is very effective, but I already signed, so.

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Oh God, every time I want to go to the GDC homepage I land on the censorship website http://www.greendaycommunity.org/public/...
Which is very effective, but I already signed, so.


You have to click on Mike's face. Or you can click on "Green Day Community" right below the banner
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It's only for a day.

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You have to click on Mike's face. Or you can click on "Green Day Community" right below the banner
http://i.imgur.com/ByEIe.jpg...

It's only for a day.

What kind of animals do you take us for? Sacrificing something for a whole goddamn day.

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You have to click on Mike's face. Or you can click on "Green Day Community" right below the banner
http://i.imgur.com/ByEIe.jpg...

It's only for a day.

Yeah, I know, thanks. I automatically click the banner though because that's where I usually click. I now need to actually think when I want to go to the homepage :p (disastrous!)

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Wait, porn could be affected. If a porn company finds a site posting their stuff, they could have it taken down under the same law, I believe.

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Kudos for putting the link on the banner. Hopefully this ridiculousness won't get passed anyway.

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I am a part of demand progress (their logo was my old avatar) and I would suggest people join their email list if they want to follow this. Demand Progress has done amazing work in grassroots lobbying, their efforts have led to the Senate holding back this bill. What could have been rammed through days after its conception has now caught peoples' attention.

Government are servants of the people - not corporations.

Oh, I always thought, it was the Rise Against fist that you had altered in colour. I'm blind.

I would sign up for this, but it's only for Americans. :p

Thread reminds me to move "look more into what the German Pirate Party in my town is doing and get involved maybe" up in my to do list.

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The reason people feel this is censorship is because it's basically letting the media corporations write a law to punish people (in a pretty harsh way) if the government decides what you're doing online is copyright infringement. The reason it worries me is because technically, Warner Brothers could say that we're committing copyright Infringement because our site is based on Green Day's name, we post music and allow downloads for stuff they haven't or don't release (like live songs, some bootlegs, etc) and we also post a ton of photos and stuff like that. My understanding is that under this law it would be perfectly legal for the government to take down our site and force companies not to show it, and also force companies like Google to remove all links to us, basically removing any existence of our site from the Internet all because a media company disagreed with what we did.

Just look at the companies who support this versus those who oppose it. Its a pretty obvious example of businesses trying to get the government to enact a law for their betterment, not that of the citizens.

Summary and details about the bill from Open Congress
http://www.opencongr.../112-h3261/show


it may just be me thinking too bluntly about it, but I the way I'm seeing this is that even though GDA links videos and posts pictures that technically belong to Warner/GD/the Photographer, it's not like anyone who posts the pictures are trying to claim it as their own. I know the government doesn't 100% care whether or not you're claiming it as your own or now, but if Warner 1 gergillion% didn't want the pictures, videos, information, or any of that up then they could shut us down pretty fast.
We've always cooperated with Warner when asked to take something down and (to my knowledge) they've never really told us to take everything down. It very well could be due to a law currently passed that doesn't allow them to shut down the site, or they aren't too worried about it, but regardless- we're still up and running after (insert number) years. I'm not too worried :)



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