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Whoops, I forgot the craziest thing that was said in Sunday school today. The teacher asked us if the death penalty was okay if it caused the person the convert to Christianity in their final moments. The consensus was yes.

 

It's one thing to support the death penalty as punishment (although personally I disagree with it). It's another thing entirely to want people to be killed because you want more people to join your religion.



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Whoops, I forgot the craziest thing that was said in Sunday school today. The teacher asked us if the death penalty was okay if it caused the person the convert to Christianity in their final moments. The consensus was yes.

 

It's one thing to support the death penalty as punishment (although personally I disagree with it). It's another thing entirely to want people to be killed because you want more people to join your religion.

Hitch pointed out how ethically suspect it was that Christians always prey on dying people in order to get them to convert. Doesn't show a lot of belief in the power of your religion if you wait until someone is in a weakened state to push it on them. And of course, all of the Christians trying to get him to convert once he got cancer was just sickening.

 

Also, the other side of that coin is that if a convicted murderer truly converts, he'll still go to heaven, whereas an atheist who's done a ton of good can still go straight to hell. Lovely.


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Doesn't show a lot of belief in the power of your religion if you wait until someone is in a weakened state to push it on them.

Or, if you push it upon them before they could ever defend themselves (like children).

 

 

Also, the other side of that coin is that if a convicted murderer truly converts, he'll still go to heaven, whereas an atheist who's done a ton of good can still go straight to hell. Lovely.

Yes. Logic. A god that does that is not a god that I ever want to worship again.


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Or, if you push it upon them before they could ever defend themselves (like children).

While I don't agree with Dawkins that teaching children religion is child abuse, I do agree with his analogy that (paraphrasing): "We'd never call a child a Republican child, or a pro-life child, or a Marxist child, so why on earth do we feel we can refer to them as Catholic children or Jewish children or Muslim children?"


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While I don't agree with Dawkins that teaching children religion is child abuse, I do agree with his analogy that (paraphrasing): "We'd never call a child a Republican child, or a pro-life child, or a Marxist child, so why on earth do we feel we can refer to them as Catholic children or Jewish children or Muslim children?"

To be fair, I don't think he's ever said that teaching children religion is child abuse per se, but that teaching them that they will burn in hell if they don't follow a particular religion is child abuse. I would have to agree with that.

 

I agree with you otherwise, of course.


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To be fair, I don't think he's ever said that teaching children religion is child abuse per se, but that teaching them that they will burn in hell if they don't follow a particular religion is child abuse.

That's what I think too. Especially because the Bible says to obey your father and mother. When parents teach you that, it's pretty much "Obey me or you will suffer forever."

 

However, I don't think simply teaching them about God or whoever is abuse.


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Sounds like there's a fine line between the Old Testament and Yorkshire.

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Yeah, I was laughing on the inside pretty hard when he said that. Thanks for your sympathy. 

 

 

 

On an unrelated note, I started saying "gesundheit" instead of "bless you" today.

 

German words make everything better. 


While I don't agree with Dawkins that teaching children religion is child abuse, I do agree with his analogy that (paraphrasing): "We'd never call a child a Republican child, or a pro-life child, or a Marxist child, so why on earth do we feel we can refer to them as Catholic children or Jewish children or Muslim children?"

 

My children will be Marxists. 


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I've never heard a Christian say that sex between a married man and woman is wrong and filthy.

I've actually read, a while back, about some married couple who are refusing to have sex at all because they feel God thinks it's gross and wrong.

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I've actually read, a while back, about some married couple who are refusing to have sex at all because they feel God thinks it's gross and wrong.

Then what did Adam and Eve do? :lol:



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Then what did Adam and Eve do? :lol:

That's the thing—original sin is often tied to Adam and Eve having sex, despite the fact that in Genesis it's explicitly eating the fruit that fucks everything up.



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That's the thing—original sin is often tied to Adam and Eve having sex, despite the fact that in Genesis it's explicitly eating the fruit that fucks everything up.

Seriously? I've heard some wild stuff, but never that. :lol:



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Seriously? I've heard some wild stuff, but never that. :lol:

Yep. There's also this interpretation, that Eve slept with the serpent which led to Cain and his descendants.


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Then what did Adam and Eve do? :lol:

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Yep. There's also this interpretation, that Eve slept with the serpent which led to Cain and his descendants.

Alrighty then.



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I've actually read, a while back, about some married couple who are refusing to have sex at all because they feel God thinks it's gross and wrong.

IS THAT THE POTATO COUPLE OR AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE


id prob bring my kids up with muslim holidays/traditions so they get presents three times a year, on both Eids and their birthday. but obviously prayer n faith is up to them bc im not all that religious myself anyway. but islam is beautiful.



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IIIS THAT THE POTATO COUPLE OR AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE

 

 

That's the first thing I thought of!

Then I looked up the potato man article and found out it was from a parody news site so :lol:


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That's the first thing I thought of!

Then I looked up the potato man article and found out it was from a parody news site so :lol:

oh ugh that's so annoying, i really believed it



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oh ugh that's so annoying, i really believed it

 

I did too :(

 

ah! I found it

http://www.larknews.com/archives/217


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IS THAT THE POTATO COUPLE OR AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE


id prob bring my kids up with muslim holidays/traditions so they get presents three times a year, on both Eids and their birthday. but obviously prayer n faith is up to them bc im not all that religious myself anyway. but islam is beautiful.

The ones who ate raw potatoes to stop their raging hormones or some shit? I believe so :lol:


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