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Because it's a christian holiday. Like as Ramadan Bajram is Muslim and so on.

You just missed my point entirely.



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You just missed my point entirely.

Why would secularists even celebrate religious holiday?



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Why would secularists even celebrate religious holiday?

We wouldn't. The point is if the Christians can take a Roman holiday which was not intended for the worship of the Christian God and make it about Him, why can't we secularists take it and make it about no God at all? Which, you will have noticed, is exactly what's happened. We aren't celebrating Jesus's birth, we're celebrating being with friends and family and exchanging gifts. And Santa Claus. Santa Claus is key. :P



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We wouldn't. The point is if the Christians can take a Roman holiday which was not intended for the worship of the Christian God and make it about Him, why can't we secularists take it and make it about no God at all? Which, you will have noticed, is exactly what's happened. We aren't celebrating Jesus's birth, we're celebrating being with friends and family and exchanging gifts. And Santa Claus. Santa Claus is key. :P

Oh God no. Leave people who belive in God to have their holiday and don't use them to have a leisure day.



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Oh God no. Leave people who belive in God to have their holiday and don't use them to have a leisure day.

Just as soon as we secularists can have a holiday that's nationally recognized and allows us to get a day off. Until then, I'm sorry, we'll continue to celebrate our secular version of Christmas.



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Oh God no. Leave people who belive in God to have their holiday and don't use them to have a leisure day.

As if people who believe in God don't also get a leisure day. Why not just let everyone have a day off and allow them to celebrate/enjoy it however they want whether that involves religion or not? How does that hurt anyone?



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Oh God no. Leave people who belive in God to have their holiday and don't use them to have a leisure day.

We Christians can have our Christ's-Mass (unless you belong to a denomination that don't celebrate/condemn the holiday), other people can have Christmas. Everybody wins. ;)



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I think Christmas has become quite removed from Christianity and things, now it's just a time to have fun regardless of your religion. It's become a commercial and universal holiday, and an excuse to enjoy winter by spending time with your family. I think that as long as people don't use the day to celebrate something completely contradictory and in spite of Christianity (which wouldn't be cool at any time of year) then whatever people choose to do on Christmas is fine. 



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Why would secularists even celebrate religious holiday?

We have family members that are religious.  The time off is to spend time with them rather than observe something religious.  Even when I was a Christian, it was a time I could get together with my family, not so much a time to go to church to praise God.  Family time is family time.  That's a fact :P and a tautology 



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We have family members that are religious.  The time off is to spend time with them rather than observe something religious.  Even when I was a Christian, it was a time I could get together with my family, not so much a time to go to church to praise God.  Family time is family time.  That's a fact :P and a tautology


Hey, at least you're doing something nice. Japanese Christmas, on the other hand...

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How do you guys not see that Seagull is trolling.



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How do you guys not see that Seagull is trolling.

 

Sometimes people are so shit at trolling it's impossible to tell if they just have dumb opinions or are just shit trollers. 

 

See for reference:

 

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I found out what that weird group I went to was, because they tried to recruit my brother's girlfriend, too! The same girl, Erica, who tried to brainwash me got my brother's gf's email out of her and was emailing her and she had "WMSCOG" in her email signature. A quick google search revealed that the WMSCOG (World Mission Society Church of God) is indeed the group that we encountered and it is considered a cult group. Apparently they do these fasts for two or three days that involve no food OR water and they even force children and infants to participate in the fasts, fucking ridiculous. I found a bunch of articles written by people who have escaped the cult and it's really interesting stuff. All of the things I read were written by people who got sucked in but were not very educated on the Bible/theologically grounded. I'm really tempted to go back (knowing what I know now) and to argue it out with them. Obviously I won't change any minds but I'm interested to see how they react to a person who's not initiated knowing the things that I know.

 

Here's a link to an account written by a former member of the cult, it's completely fascinating.

 

http://www.examining...i-got-involved/



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I found out what that weird group I went to was, because they tried to recruit my brother's girlfriend, too! The same girl, Erica, who tried to brainwash me got my brother's gf's email out of her and was emailing her and she had "WMSCOG" in her email signature. A quick google search revealed that the WMSCOG (World Mission Society Church of God) is indeed the group that we encountered and it is considered a cult group. Apparently they do these fasts for two or three days that involve no food OR water and they even force children and infants to participate in the fasts, fucking ridiculous. I found a bunch of articles written by people who have escaped the cult and it's really interesting stuff. All of the things I read were written by people who got sucked in but were not very educated on the Bible/theologically grounded. I'm really tempted to go back (knowing what I know now) and to argue it out with them. Obviously I won't change any minds but I'm interested to see how they react to a person who's not initiated knowing the things that I know.

 

Here's a link to an account written by a former member of the cult, it's completely fascinating.

 

http://www.examining...i-got-involved/

I'll just advise you this: don't. Not only you won't change their minds, you're just exposing yourself to them by coming back - considering cultists are very clever people.



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How do you guys not see that Seagull is trolling.

Even if he is, none of the opinions he's expressed are too far beyond what I've seen in people I know.

 

Tongue in cheek comment, serious responses.  What can you do, it's the religion thread? :P



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Because it's a christian holiday. Like as Ramadan Bajram is Muslim and so on.

looool bajram



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Happy birthday, Hitch. Thanks eternally for pulling me into the light.

 

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The Daily Mail have done it again, unsurprisingly. Apparently, "This new breed of militant atheists are as intolerant as any religious fundamentalists." Well then.



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Nigga I ain't clickin' that. They don't deserve my ad money.



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They do have a point, I mean being a bit condescending in a debate and committing acts of war and terrorism are pretty similar




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