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Yeah, it makes way more sense if you take the view that Judas was Jesus' most trusted disciple and was specifically entrusted with the task by Jesus Himself, as the Gospel of Judas and other sources say.

TBH it's not so much like that. GoJ's Judas is the pawn of that being who created and rules the material world - nope, not God, some angel named Nebro/Saklas. Said being who obviously doesn't want Jesus (sent by that other, higher God) to complete his task; Judas is the tool that will ensure Jesus leaves his bodily shell to prevent him from completing his mission of revealing that other God to humanity. But that's it - all Judas will hand over is that bodily shell. The 'real' Jesus will escape, because

 

So it's not so much 'You gotta betray me' as 'You'll betray me, right? Eh, sure go ahead if you dare'.


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TBH it's not so much like that. GoJ's Judas is the pawn of that being who created and rules the material world - nope, not God, some angel named Nebro/Saklas. Said being who obviously doesn't want Jesus (sent by that other, higher God) to complete his task; Judas is the tool that will ensure Jesus leaves his bodily shell to prevent him from completing his mission of revealing that other God to humanity. But that's it - all Judas will hand over is that bodily shell. The 'real' Jesus will escape, because

 

So it's not so much 'You gotta betray me' as 'You'll betray me, right? Eh, sure go ahead if you dare'.

Ahh, okay, thanks for the correction! I haven't actually been able to get my hands on the Gospel to read, so more accurate information about it is always good.


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TBH it's not so much like that. GoJ's Judas is the pawn of that being who created and rules the material world - nope, not God, some angel named Nebro/Saklas. Said being who obviously doesn't want Jesus (sent by that other, higher God) to complete his task; Judas is the tool that will ensure Jesus leaves his bodily shell to prevent him from completing his mission of revealing that other God to humanity. But that's it - all Judas will hand over is that bodily shell. The 'real' Jesus will escape, because

 

So it's not so much 'You gotta betray me' as 'You'll betray me, right? Eh, sure go ahead if you dare'.

There's no politics like Heaven politics...


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Ahh, okay, thanks for the correction! I haven't actually been able to get my hands on the Gospel to read, so more accurate information about it is always good.

It's partly National Geographic's fault. This is the preliminary translation of the thing made in 2006. The confusion is mainly because of some of the translation decisions of the original translators.
 

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In other words, the Gospel of Judas' Jesus is a prick.
 

There's no politics like Heaven politics...

This is what the Sethians (the group that produced the Gospel of Judas) believed.
 

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My mom posted this on Facebook. Real subtle, mother dear. :lol:

 


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My mom posted this on Facebook. Real subtle, mother dear. :lol:

 

 

That's by far one of the greatest things I've ever watched omg. Died at the Evolution one.

 

Also that guy looks familiar, is he the same one who sang that Good Riddance parody?



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That's by far one of the greatest things I've ever watched omg. Died at the Evolution one.

 

Also that guy looks familiar, is he the same one who sang that Good Riddance parody?

Yep. I enjoy him for the most part when he's not preachy.



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My mom posted this on Facebook. Real subtle, mother dear. :lol:

That killed me. :lol:



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My mom posted this on Facebook. Real subtle, mother dear. :lol:

Oh my goodness this guy is having a show near me on Saturday. I just found this out. This is so weird. I'm going now. Woah.



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Oh my goodness this guy is having a show near me on Saturday. I just found this out. This is so weird. I'm going now. Woah.

He's actually pretty funny a lot of the time, so enjoy!


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He's actually pretty funny a lot of the time, so enjoy!

Good, thanks! When you said earlier that he's preachy sometimes, how so? 



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Good, thanks! When you said earlier that he's preachy sometimes, how so? 

Just stuff like that where he bashes us atheists. :P All in good fun most of the time, I was only really nettled about it because I knew my mom was addressing it to me when she posted it. :P


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Just stuff like that where he bashes us atheists.

Eh, I think atheist churches are stupid too. :lol:



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Eh, I think atheist churches are stupid too. :lol:

I agree that they seem to miss the point, though even we grouchy atheists need community. :P


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I once had a friend, who I was friends with since age 4, tell me she couldn't be my friend anymore because I was "turning my back on God".

I wonder what she'd say if she knew I'm Wiccan now lol
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I suspect I've heard them all already, but maybe I can pick up something new here. If you had to chose one argument to either prove or disprove the existence of god or the validity of a particular religion, what would it be? In other words, the one argument you would use to persuade your "opponent" in a debate? 



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I suspect I've heard them all already, but maybe I can pick up something new here. If you had to chose one argument to either prove or disprove the existence of god or the validity of a particular religion, what would it be? In other words, the one argument you would use to persuade your "opponent" in a debate? 


For any religion dependent on a benevolent deity, the problem of evil is pretty much insurmountable. I don't advocate one "magic argument" or anything like that, as that's not very nuanced thinking, but that's the most devastating one.

Oh my goodness this guy is having a show near me on Saturday. I just found this out. This is so weird. I'm going now. Woah.


How was it?
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How was it?

It was good! The atheist song part wasn't as funny the second time, but that's to be expected. His routine was funny and he was a really good guitarist!


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