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If I have kids I'll probably have to consider the pros and cons of letting them watch the news as a toddler because I'm slightly weirded out that I actually remember watching a tv report about this when it happened lol

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Billie Hoe
2 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

If I have kids I'll probably have to consider the pros and cons of letting them watch the news as a toddler because I'm slightly weirded out that I actually remember watching a tv report about this when it happened lol

I remember seeing 9/11 on TV inbetween animes when I was 6 but I didn't really understand it back then. I was just confused because they kept showing it every day and I didn't know why that was so special. Also, a bit unrelated, when the pope died in 2005 they showed it on every channel as breaking news, and my brother cried because they interrupted Shrek lmao. 

But yeah, my mom's cousin visited us one time with his little kids and the news were showing some terrible event, and he turned the TV off so the children wouldn't be exposed to this

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Beerjeezus
23 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

I remember seeing 9/11 on TV inbetween animes when I was 6 but I didn't really understand it back then. I was just confused because they kept showing it every day and I didn't know why that was so special. Also, a bit unrelated, when the pope died in 2005 they showed it on every channel as breaking news, and my brother cried because they interrupted Shrek lmao. 

But yeah, my mom's cousin visited us one time with his little kids and the news were showing some terrible event, and he turned the TV off so the children wouldn't be exposed to this

Yeah I remember watching 9/11 too and then also stuff about the war. I was probably mostly just like ???bad!!!! and didn't really understand it any deeper. Lol I remember gradma made me amd granda watch the pope's funeral and we were both b o r e d and also had a cold and wanted to watch something fun instead lol. Then a while ago I had an argument with my mom if it was a dead archbishop or a pope whose funeral we watched 13 years ago. :lol:

Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the right thing to do or it doesn't matter and kids can handle reality. I ended up trying to pursue an internship in tv news so it looks like I wasn't traumatized too badly or maybe I was and that's why I watch spongebob at my age :P

2 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

I’m a bit more concerned about kids being given unrestricted internet access tbh. When I was 11 I wasn’t even allowed to listen to Green Day, let alone get on a forum and talk to strangers about them. :lol: 

Damn you're right. :mellow: I started using internet when I was 12 and now even though nothing bad happened to me (I mostly just listened to music) I'm glad I didn't do anything dumb because there was nothing that would stop me if I wanted to. Literally the worst thing I saw at that age were Billie Joe's dick pics and that was bound to happen sooner or later so it's something I can live with.

I don't know how people can be chill about letting little kids loose on the internetz before they can even read.

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Billie Hoe

the only thing i used the internet for when I was 11 was making circles in paint, play pinball and videogames for children :lol: I was "introduced" to the internet a year later and then basically all I did was chat with my classmates, sign up for social media platforms (for students) that were way safer than facebook and look up pictures of celebrities online (and save everything i could find into a folder). I watched AMVs on YouTube and looked at art on deviantart. Played games on barbie.com and nickelodeon :lol: 

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Hermione

I can't even imagine being on the internet when I was 11, it was 1996 so I never was :P. Even once I did get to use it at school/a couple of friend's houses when I was 15 or so there was still no youtube or social media so we just played crappy online games and looked up song lyrics and stuff.

Because my nephew is 11 and his interests are age appropriate (football, cars, video games) and his internet is monitored and pretty much all he does on there is watch youtube videos on those subjects I despair when I see what some kids the same age get exposed to. What each child can handle varies I guess but giving unrestricted access seems like a bad idea when there's plenty of stuff online that not even adults should look at.

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Billie Hoe

Also, I get like super anxious on behalf of children who are naive (as kids are) and don't have a lot of life/intersocial experience when I think about how many creeps there are out there. I talked to a fair share of creeps online when I was 13, thankfully I was smart enough to not give away too much or get too invested, but children are getting internet access younger and younger these days... :S 

I think Web Literacy should definitely be taught in schools by professionals, especially in the time of fake news (no, not CNN or the New York Times). Kids' minds are still developing, and therefore still incredibly impressionable and malleable, and they don't necessarily have the skills to tell what's fake and what's real. Hell, even adults don't sometimes. But given that children are still developing, things they learn at a young age tend to stick more than something they read when they're in their teenage years...

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solongfromthestars

I'm glad I wasn't on GDC at 11 because of how many more embarrassing posts I'd be haunted by :lol: 

I don't think most adults even knew how much weirdness was on the internet when I was 10 - 11 though. It was still relatively new to them then. I was sad my family couldn't afford a computer but it was probably a blessing in disguise :P My after school club had one though. Under 13s weren't allowed on most websites but all you had to do was say you were older. Creeps knew kids were doing that and targeted them. Then there was the constant drama between kids who really weren't old enough to be online. It must be so much worse now, though - and it's harder to distance yourself because people keep screenshots and other "proof." Web literacy should absolutely be taught in schools.

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yeah 11 year old me, wouldn't have been a good fit considering 2004 is when i was 11, and besides before getting a laptop of my own by 10th grade i had to use family computer and it was generally monitored. like if my younger cousin wanted to play a game and i was browsing the web already for an hour then it was her turn. we'd share. i tend to go on mostly on weekends and after homework before i had to shower/go to bed. like my older cousin or aunt would generally be around so i really didn't have the opportunity to be sneaky. 

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AlissaGoesRAWR

Yeah, when I was a kid my computer was shared with my sister and the rest of my family, in the living room where anyone could see it, and I was never really home alone to use it unsupervised. I think I was 10-11 when we got our first family computer. I did use it a lot, don't get me wrong, and I don't think my parents had a great understanding of everything I was doing on it since they aren't too tech savvy. But I also think since my parents were so strict elsewhere in my life I never even dared try anything questionable.

Still, I think if my parents realized what I was doing on there they might be a bit nervous about it. For example, a website I used very often was Neopets and I was on the chat boards talking to strangers there quite frequently. Occasionally we'd take the conversations off the website onto AIM or email, but most of the time it was just for "role playing" posts, where you wrote parts of fictional stories together. Honestly, I think that's how I first learned I enjoyed writing and decided to pursue my career. I would've been embarrassed if my parents looked over my shoulder to supervise what I was doing since it was a sort of expression of myself and I was a pretty introverted kid, so I'm glad they gave me that freedom, but at the same time, looking back on it, I totally would've understood if they did because for a young kid websites like that make you really vulnerable to predators.

I honestly think it's terrifying that kids today are given their own unrestricted personal devices at such a young, impressionable age. (I also think boys and girls are treated differently in regards to this stuff, though, and boys are given more freedom and it's considered more "expected" for them to stumble upon things like porn but that's a feminist rant for another time.)

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WhiteTim

Man y’all are a bunch of ageists 😂

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AlissaGoesRAWR
1 minute ago, WhiteTim said:

Man y’all are a bunch of ageists 😂

No, we're just getting old. My parents are actually kind of making sense to me now. :P 

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Moriarty
9 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Yeah, when I was a kid my computer was shared with my sister and the rest of my family, in the living room where anyone could see it, and I was never really home alone to use it unsupervised. I think I was 10-11 when we got our first family computer. I did use it a lot, don't get me wrong, and I don't think my parents had a great understanding of everything I was doing on it since they aren't too tech savvy. But I also think since my parents were so strict elsewhere in my life I never even dared try anything questionable.

Still, I think if my parents realized what I was doing on there they might be a bit nervous about it. For example, a website I used very often was Neopets and I was on the chat boards talking to strangers there quite frequently. Occasionally we'd take the conversations off the website onto AIM or email, but most of the time it was just for "role playing" posts, where you wrote parts of fictional stories together. Honestly, I think that's how I first learned I enjoyed writing and decided to pursue my career. I would've been embarrassed if my parents looked over my shoulder to supervise what I was doing since it was a sort of expression of myself and I was a pretty introverted kid, so I'm glad they gave me that freedom, but at the same time, looking back on it, I totally would've understood if they did because for a young kid websites like that make you really vulnerable to predators.

I honestly think it's terrifying that kids today are given their own unrestricted personal devices at such a young, impressionable age. (I also think boys and girls are treated differently in regards to this stuff, though, and boys are given more freedom and it's considered more "expected" for them to stumble upon things like porn but that's a feminist rant for another time.)

oh man i love neopets, that was a precursor for me going on habbo hotel back in 2002/2003 time? man thanks for making me feel old.

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WhiteTim
5 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

No, we're just getting old. My parents are actually kind of making sense to me now. :P 

You’re not old or older dang it if you’re getting old that means I’m getting older and I’m young lol 

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AlissaGoesRAWR
26 minutes ago, Moriarty said:

oh man i love neopets, that was a precursor for me going on habbo hotel back in 2002/2003 time? man thanks for making me feel old.

Should I know what habbo hotel is? :o

And you're welcome! ;) 

Did you know Neopets is getting an actual app this summer?! :runaround:

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Sarcasm
33 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

No, we're just getting old. My parents are actually kind of making sense to me now. :P 

aren't you in your early 20'

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Laura!
30 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Should I know what habbo hotel is? :o

And you're welcome! ;) 

Did you know Neopets is getting an actual app this summer?! :runaround:

A Neopets app?! Well there goes my productivity this summer!

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Moriarty
2 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Should I know what habbo hotel is? :o

And you're welcome! ;) 

Did you know Neopets is getting an actual app this summer?! :runaround:

you should! it was where it was at in 2004 after neopets faded.

and holy shit, okay i need to try and get into my account again!

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AlissaGoesRAWR
2 hours ago, Sarcasm said:

aren't you in your early 20'

Closer to 30 now... (I turn 28 in May) :( 💔

 

30 minutes ago, Moriarty said:

you should! it was where it was at in 2004 after neopets faded.

I have literally NEVER heard of this, but it looks like I would've had a great time with it! :P 

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WhiteTim
1 hour ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Closer to 30 now... (I turn 28 in May) :( 💔

Youngin lol

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maryjanewhatsername
18 hours ago, Not as cool as Tré Cool said:

@maryjanewhatsername @DeJennsitized @Beerjeezus @Hermione


ok ok ok ok sorry

see this is why everyone I know IRL hates me because I say things like "armin did nothing wrong" and they respond and sometimes when they respond they say stuff like "you monster what's wrong with you you're stupid" so at this point I'm used to just being general unhappy when people tell me that how I feel about Armin is wrong or anything like it. the only time I've ever not gotten super-duper-fuck-everyone about it is when one time someone said "I personally just disagree with that. I don't think he did nothing wrong. But that's fine if you do, as long as you don't do what he did."

That's fine if you think these types of cases are interesting. It's fine to have an opinion. Just know if you are going to express an opinion, it will be met with other opinions, opposing or in agreement. You have to be self assured enough to be able to state your argument in a way that is thought through well and you can't be so sensitive about people who either disagree or are only disagreeing by insulting your character - that is just improper debate and makes them look ignorant. I do agree with @Hermione though - this was decades and talking about this as often as you appear to is unhealthy. It's in the past, you have your opinion and can take solace in that, and what's done is done - leave it at that and don't let it consume your thoughts. 

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Not as cool as Tré Cool

OKAY if you guys wanna know why I like talk about this guy (armin) a lot is because Mein Teil is literally my favourite heavy metal song of EVER. Without Armin it wouldn't be here and realistically I might not even know about RAMMSTEIN.

(also when I put strikethrough around like it's a joke obviously.)

On 2/7/2019 at 7:36 AM, Billie Hoe said:

Also, I get like super anxious on behalf of children who are naive (as kids are) and don't have a lot of life/intersocial experience when I think about how many creeps there are out there. I talked to a fair share of creeps online when I was 13, thankfully I was smart enough to not give away too much or get too invested, but children are getting internet access younger and younger these days... :S 

I think Web Literacy should definitely be taught in schools by professionals, especially in the time of fake news (no, not CNN or the New York Times). Kids' minds are still developing, and therefore still incredibly impressionable and malleable, and they don't necessarily have the skills to tell what's fake and what's real. Hell, even adults don't sometimes. But given that children are still developing, things they learn at a young age tend to stick more than something they read when they're in their teenage years...

ima smart becus i dont not giv my mincreft pisswerd to strenger

(okay this is serious now) I'm sad to say you're right. I don't give my information away as easily as other kids but even I could go on a random ROBLOX server or some shit, find a person, get their YouTube user, then get other profiles of them from other sites from there, ask them what their phone number is and where they live, and bam--I'm kidnapping them in my van. If any of you met me in real life you'd realize I'm a lot smarter than I act. So if I were that type of person luring children to come to me would be easy. Which is why I'm glad I'm not some evil motherfucker.

Also, "I could go on a random ROBLOX server or some shit, find a person, get their YouTube user", the reason why I pick YouTube is because when I used to play ROBLOX and would make friends there, I'd ask them their YT user since it was easiest for me to then talk on whatever weird cringey videos they post (I post bad videos too don't think I'm making fun of them I'm just like them) and comment, asking them. YouTube isn't even close to censored as ROBLOX is (well, used to be that way) so it was EASY AF.

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maryjanewhatsername
5 hours ago, Not as cool as Tré Cool said:

OKAY if you guys wanna know why I like talk about this guy (armin) a lot is because Mein Teil is literally my favourite heavy metal song of EVER. Without Armin it wouldn't be here and realistically I might not even know about RAMMSTEIN.

(also when I put strikethrough around like it's a joke obviously.)

ima smart becus i dont not giv my mincreft pisswerd to strenger

(okay this is serious now) I'm sad to say you're right. I don't give my information away as easily as other kids but even I could go on a random ROBLOX server or some shit, find a person, get their YouTube user, then get other profiles of them from other sites from there, ask them what their phone number is and where they live, and bam--I'm kidnapping them in my van. If any of you met me in real life you'd realize I'm a lot smarter than I act. So if I were that type of person luring children to come to me would be easy. Which is why I'm glad I'm not some evil motherfucker.

Also, "I could go on a random ROBLOX server or some shit, find a person, get their YouTube user", the reason why I pick YouTube is because when I used to play ROBLOX and would make friends there, I'd ask them their YT user since it was easiest for me to then talk on whatever weird cringey videos they post (I post bad videos too don't think I'm making fun of them I'm just like them) and comment, asking them. YouTube isn't even close to censored as ROBLOX is (well, used to be that way) so it was EASY AF.

You're making videos on YouTube at your age?! I knew growing up in this newer generation was different but holy hell. My mom almost grounded me for having a Gmail at your age let alone an active YouTube account. The internet is such a wild place. I'm glad I was sheltered from it for a bit longer than everyone else. At the time I wished I had been one of the "cool kids," and now I'm just glad that I had a childhood before I met the Internet. 

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Not as cool as Tré Cool
49 minutes ago, maryjanewhatsername said:

You're making videos on YouTube at your age?! I knew growing up in this newer generation was different but holy hell. My mom almost grounded me for having a Gmail at your age let alone an active YouTube account. The internet is such a wild place. I'm glad I was sheltered from it for a bit longer than everyone else. At the time I wished I had been one of the "cool kids," and now I'm just glad that I had a childhood before I met the Internet. 

That video just shows some of the stupid crap I post

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