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Yeah, and now if they want to release it it'll be easier to do it with that cool story attached rather than just having said the songs weren't up to standard. Going by the songs we've heard from that time (including the song C&V) I can see why they decided that, they're not nearly as interesting and ambitious as anything on AI. But they are good songs, so while they might not have been good enough for the big comeback album they wanted they still might be good enough to put out another way or at another time.
I just meant what I said works either way, wasn't criticising your quoting I don't really think it is much of a mystery, they've said they realised the material they were working on wasn't up to scratch so decided to scrap it and try something more challenging instead. Pretty clear that's what they did. The only dodgy part is the bit about tapes being stolen, but whether that happened or not they still could've carried on with C&V if they'd wanted, either way they made the decision to abandon what they were working on and start again to make a better album. They're usually like when they talk about the tapes being stolen anyway, they don't seem to very secretive about it being made up or at least an exaggeration.
I thought you were trolling me, reply works either way I don't remember anyone who saw the original version of HLAHG mentioning anything about C&V being talked about in it. But since he filmed like 300 hours of footage and the one that's (hopefully) coming out is a different cut I guess there might be something about it.
Green Day have said that C&V was kind of the same type of style as Warning and they ditched it because it wasn't "maximum Green Day", in other words they realized they weren't pushing themselves or progressing and it was mediocre. I think the song Cigarettes and Valentines, the other songs we know were from it and other songs from the time like Maria, Poprocks and Coke and Ha Ha You're Dead show this. It was post Warning b side material, probably decent enough but I don't know why anyone thinks that we're missing out on something amazing. I don't think the story that they realised the material they were working on wasn't good enough and challenged themselves to do something better is implausible, just the "stolen tapes" part that they added to jazz it up, which they've always said in a bit of a nudge nudge wink wink way anyway. There's evidence that they were working on material that was mediocre compared to AI in the form of all the songs from between Warning and AI that have come out. Plus we know they did lots of experiments while making AI (The Network plus apparently loads of other kinds of songs and a whole album of dirty Christmas songs), they didn't just go in and make the album right away, they clearly made the decision to experiment and push themselves first.
Hey that's my brother's birthday. Looking forward to seeing photos and videos from this! Always fun to see Green Day looking dorky in sports clothes . Have fun everyone who's going! Totally just reminded me of this too
Olivia is a song they just played live once, at a show in 2010, so I think 21st CB times is its most likely origin.
Just because the final songs picked for the album were shown written on a board it doesn't mean they didn't record others during the AI sessions. The band themselves have stated that they recorded all kinds of different/experimental songs while making AI, including a whole album of dirty Christmas songs (and of course The Network album). It seems plausible to me that some of the American Idiot b-sides were recorded at the same time as the album, with their similar themes about politics. Without the band specifying there's no real way to know which originated while working on C&V and which while working on AI, as far as I know they've only said Too Much Too Soon was C&V. And you're wrong about When It's Time, Billie wrote it in 1991 (this is stated in a making of the American Idiot Musical documentary) and demoed it while making American Idiot (when making of American Idiot documentary Heart Like A Handgrenade was given a one off cinema showing Billie was shown playing it on guitar and piano, someone in the cinema even recorded the audio and posted it here). Could've been that it was also considered for C&V but again without the band saying so we don't know.
Turned on Scuzz last night and it was showing the "100 Greatest Videos Of All Time", I was surprised to see Hitchin' A Ride at number 7. Very odd choice out of all Green Day's videos. But then again they had Kid Rock's American Badass at number 5 so it wasn't a particularly well put together list. Nice to see Hitchin' A Ride on TV anyway.
Just a reminder, when posting here could you make sure to include a few words to describe the article/how it relates to Green Day rather than just posting a link please (makes it easier for people browsing the thread to see which articles they want to click on). On the article, any band praising both Green Day and Muse gets approval points from me
Never seen a member of Green Day with hair remotely like that. Maybe that's why he looks like he was rejected.
Not sure about the rest, but I agree that Longview is a classic on every level
Haha great! I really want to hear her singing a Green Day song now.
Not really, easy to have interpreted what he said that way! But hey I just remembered that an artist made a new modernised version of the Dookie cover for the album's 20th anniversary, and they're on there at least : http://www.greendayauthority.com/news/4698