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I wish I could restart GDA and GDC

Posted by Fuzz , 20 February 2013 · 921 views

GDA is my full time job. I've been sucking at it lately. I feel guilty about it, but it's yet to change. When I visit GDA and GDC I feel like there's just so much stuff I want to change. I wish I could restart both sites from scratch. GDC feels bloated. I feel like we have too many subforums and the community is splintered because of it. I don't feel like it's a cohesive group. 
 
All of this falls on me. The current setup is the way it is because I made it that way. And now it's hard to change, just like signatures. 
 
On GDA there are things that haven't been worked on in years (news archives for example, didja know, a proper calendar page). 
 
All of this is at the point where I wish I just had a clean slate. No string attached to any decision I make. These sites are my responsibility and I'm failing at running them. I disappear for days at a time because I can't prioritize what I need to work on so I just avoid it all. 
 
I don't know how to fix what we have. I mean, I have my ideas, but it's not easy. It kind of feels like I've squeezed the toothpaste out of the tube and now I'm trying to figure out how to put it all back in. 



Don't be so hard on yourself! I already love GDA and GDC the way they are! They're awesome!

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Lady Nightlife
Feb 20 2013 11:49 AM

What LazyPhil said. I get this feeling allll the time at my job, because it just feels like there's too much to handle all at once. It helps to pick one thing and then just focus on improving it as best you can, and forget everything else you need to do. Just focus on the one thing until it's done.

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I don't think you need to restart it, I think they're great sites! It's kinda like Da Vinci looking at the Mona Lisa and figuring he did her mouth a bit wrong. What's done is done. There are always improvements to be made but as to the first point, of cohesiveness, with a community of over 50,000 (regulars or otherwise), it's never going to be as cohesive as you might like - people want to talk about different things etc. 

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Nothing's ever perfect.  But it's the imperfections that make life and websites so much more fun.

 

Yes, to you, there's work to be done.  Fine, pick one to work on and delegate the rest.  That's what a good team is for. 

 

However, if none of it gets done, people will still come.  They aren't noticing these projects as much as you are.  They are here for the daily posts and conversations and friendships.  I see it as you've already done the hard work - getting these sites up, running and well-respected.  The rest is little details.  They nag at you but don't keep people away. 

 

As has been said, don't be so hard on yourself.  You've done a great job to date and it shows.  Be proud of that.  You damn well should be.  Your sites get more respect than the IC ever has or possibly ever will.  That says quite a lot!

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And what about a co-worker and you'll share the work?

and the work you do is good :) :thumbsup:

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I like GDC and GDA the way it is. You guys manage it so efficiently and I dont think there's is something I'd like to see changed. Its all good, really. That is why I spend half of my day here.

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Andres, to some extent we have splintered, but look. I don't really get that much into Green Day anymore. Not that I don't like them but I don't have a fiery passion for them, yet I'm content to give people weight loss advice and argue about guns with Bryony in general and post the occasional random lyric in Shenanigans cause that's what I do. My GDC experience is great, it connects me with people and eats up hours of my day like a nice old forum should. 

 

We've shifted and merged and split subforums so many times, there's no reason we can't keep doing it. But no need to restart the place, it's still a cool fucking place and you worry too much, I think if you ask around you'll find most of us are having a good time. 

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HolidayContradiction
Feb 20 2013 01:05 PM
Don't dare to restart it. The days it would be down due to all the changes would suck for a lot of us who spends some time here every day to check how other members are doing and what's happening both in the green day world and the world outside of them. Of course it is lot to do. It is two sites! But that's the reason why you have such a big team to help you out. Take the time one day to write a list of everything that needs to be done or updated. Then find out what you can have others do and what only you can fix. After that it just cones down to putting people to tasks and I'm pretty sure there are many people who are willing to help you out so that the sites can run as smoothly as possible
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Maria Gloria
Feb 20 2013 01:06 PM

I don't think anyone else is really noticing those imperfections. Like several others have said, we're all having a good time or we wouldn't spend so much of our time here! I can't really imagine GDC any other way - I know at least I'm glad it's the way it is. You do a great job, try to see the positives over the negatives.

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Tre's Busted Drumkit
Feb 20 2013 01:08 PM

 

*edit* Stupid YouTube embedding restrictions. Long story short, it's about a crazy bad guy whose motivation in life is to "blow it all up". Lots of fun.

 

Don't beat yourself up too much. GDA/GDC are huge, and you take too much on yourself sometimes. You know the oranges and light blues are here to help.

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Actually, Andres, I think you're thinking too utopian. The fact that there are so many sub-forums, and people have splintered into groups of friends of similar interests marks this is a large, functioning community. It's less a forum, more a small town. 

 

To me the fact that the wider community breaks down into smaller factions is a sign of it's success, and is the natural evolution of all large groups of people who co-exist. It is a very human response to lots of people all being in one place. We all come here for one thing - Green Day, but we stay here because you maintain the framework for all of us to express our own individualities. To some people here who struggle to be confident enough to express themselves in real life, this place is a lifeline. It's a place where no one really judges, and everyone cares. If GDC became more streamlined, I think it would kill part of the attraction of the place. 

 

Society isn't streamlined. GDC is a society. It's the flaws of a society that mark it for it's greatness. I mean, fuck, democracy is the most flawed way of running a country you could imagine, yet it persists because it allows for personal expression without limitation (within reason) and that is what makes this place rock. 

 

Sure, GDA does need some physical maintenance in terms of the things you mention, but there's not much wrong with GDC. If there was, the people using it would be fierce in making it known. 

 

I know it's your baby, but it's grown up and has it's own personality now. I think you gotta let it fly and develop rather than try to control it. 

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I like it here.
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Mara Garcia Green Day
Feb 20 2013 03:28 PM

Well, i love GDC and GDA, there´s nothing wrong with the sites, i love them!!!! Actually i love more GDA than Green Day.Com xD

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KarlyLovesGD
Feb 20 2013 05:40 PM

Comrade's response x500

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Just Another Joe
Feb 20 2013 06:10 PM

Personally I think the GDC is fine the way it is. I have no complaints about the forum setups and the sub-forums feel just right. I'd say John's comment is one I agree with most. I, personally, am having a wonderful time on the site and I see no major problems that would enforce any ideas of restarting the entire thing.

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coffee&cigarettes
Feb 20 2013 07:51 PM
Dude, this site is great. Everything can always use improvement. There's always something that needs to be fixed. But I mean, this is a kick ass sight, dude. I think you've done a good job and it's really an amazing site for GD fans. Everybody adores this website. Take it one step at time, you don't need to start over. You can improve as you go along, just pick one thing and work on it at a time. Don't overwhelm yourself.
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Thank you all for the lovely replies. I think I just feel over-whlemed too easily and just throw my arms up and say "FUCK IT. DO IT ALL OVER".

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Interesting.  If you were to restart GDC, what would it look like?

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Interesting.  If you were to restart GDC, what would it look like?

A lot simpler. Less subforums. A lot less.

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