I looooooooooooooovvvvveee Green Day cause the speak their mind, but I hate their politics, and suggestions?

Deal with it and listen to their music?

listen to country

or celine dion

well them singing about politics is speaking their mind....

^What he said

Since you hate their politics i suppose that you support Bush then, right?

hmm. true... maybe not, what do you think...

If you hate GD's politics, you got to know where you stand yourself politically. GD do not support Bush, that is one of their most distinctive politics. If you're not sure of what you think about politics in general and who you support, you can't just say that you don't like their politics

If you don't like it too bad?

This isn't a problem.
Why is this even a thread?

ohh poor N00b (can I say this already? )

Yeah

cause being anti-war is so terrible.

oh well, like everyone else said, just ignore it. you dont have to agree with everything they say.

for everyones sake close this thread, we have a million political threads which are all the same, lets lessen the load.

Personally I could never listen to music I disagree with, but, whatever suites you, right?

Honestly, I think Green Day don't know what the hell they're talking about concerning politics. They're great musicians and I really admire them, but they are just putting themselves at the same level as Barbara Streisand and Alec Baldwin who really have no clue about what is really going on, and just don't understand the works of politics.

Okay so first you say you hate their politics, & now you're not sure?

I'm not going to yell at you because you support Bush, because people are allowed to have their own opinions & stuff.

But how can you say that you agree for what they stand for, if you support bush & the war, when what Green Day Stands for is NOT supporting Bush & The War because they are both 2 bad decisions & Green Day do not agree with what that.

How you can you say you agree for what they stand for, if you are in approval for what they are against?

Poor little lost n00b, you shouldn't of said anything at all, everyones gonna hate you now

meh a n00b If you don't like it just don't listen to it, you don't have to agree with everything Green Day say.

I disagree, I'm pretty sure Billie Joe knows about politics if he wrote so many songs about it, & bases his music around the "Punk Rock" genre.
He knows what hes talking about, Thats one thing I can say.

So what if he wrote many songs on it? Doesn't mean what he saying is right.
In order to really know politics is to read books after books after books on events such as the Gulf War, and the 9/11 Report, and then find other books and read other viewpoints on the same topic and then study what each of them are saying. Not only that, in order to really really know politics is to somewhat take a political science course in college. I really don't think Billie Joe spends all his time reading shit like that, nor has he gone to college.

Well he wouldn't really speak about something he doesnt understand.He is talking about how he feels about it so yeah he is gonna know about politics.

what is the definition of 'politics' anyway? they stand up for what they think is right.

so unless you've read tons of books and been to college, you don't know anything about politics? i think you're wrong there

Billie Joe is against the war.
Thats really original.

politics are fucking hard to learn but onbody cares about politics

So what if he didn't go to collage? It doesn't mean he doesn't know about Politics!
I'm pretty sure he's read about politics, hes not retarded. & it's not just about reading about Politics, its seeing it happening.
When They pulled down the Saddam Hussein statue that was wittinessing Poltics wasn't it?
When you hear about bombs & attacks in Iraq every day in the news, thats Politics?
The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, both are shows based around Politics.
History channel, WWII to Roman Invasion Documentries!
You don't need to just read about it, even if it helps.

Thats a very stupid point to back it up with, that you have to read about it.
I believe Billie Joe knows what hes talking about when it comes to politics. & I don't see how you believe he doesn't.

But don't get me wrong, You're entitled to your opinion, I just disagree immensly.

"that's really original"


what? their music is against humans killing other humans.. oh what a trend

you've got to be kidding me.
you know that there are men out there trying to kill TERRORISTS who could kill even more people here in the states? the same kind of terrorists that killed the thousands of innocent people in 9/11? It's sad that inorder to fight of these terrorists, we have to kill men, but its not like this war has no purpose you know.

Nobody Cares about politics you say?
I'm sorry, but that is so narrow minded. Politics are so important to know! & They're not even that hard to understand, you just need Patience & a brain.



It may have a purpose, But war is still insanely stupid.

Okay so you're saying you prefer to have a plane full of Jihad terrorists come over to the states and crash planes into the Statue of Liberty, and the White House, and maybe fly into buildings in California. Yea, that sounds not dangerous at all.

Oh god, you're making it in to much of a bigger deal then it actually is.
They're not going to just fly in & kill everyone you dumbass, its gonna take a while at least.

& There is no need for the war ACTUALLY.
Whats good about killing thousands of civillians & pissing more & more people off constantly?
& Torturing & Harming hundreds of familes who never did anything wrong, just because the soldiers aren't getting any huh?
It's just causing more racism & harm, the war was a dumb ass idea, & just because "Jihad Terrorists" are going to "kill us all" if we don't kill them all off first, is not a good reason to go to war.

I have no idea what rock you're living under, but saying that this was is needed is the most narrow minded shit I've ever heard of.

what is the proof that this is going to happen though? i'm not sure that i trust everything that i hear, all i know is that i'm strongly against violence of any sort; i really don't think it's ok to fight fire with fire. i'm certain there are other ways to deal with all of 'this'.

First off. the topic starter's question is ridiculous. Asking for suggestions about what to do if he do if he likes the music but doesnt like their politics. Think about if for yourself and learn to separate the enjoyment of your music from your politics. Secondly, yes, i feel it is safe to assume that Billie Joe does not posses the knowledge of politics that a person with a Ph.D , M.A. or B.A. in political science would have. Is this to say that Billie Joe is completely ignorant of the world around him and is not allowed to voice his opinion through his music? Of course not. BJ is an American and in the US it is not only permissable to question your leaders and their motives but it is your responsibilty as a citizen do do so under the current republic that we live in. BJ is singing about what he thinks is right. IT is up to you to determine on your own what you think is right.

Haha I'm not saying he isn't allowed to state his opinions, I'm just saying his opinions is based on lack of knowledge. Just because he sees something "around him" doesnt mean its the actual thing. There are lot of things people don't know because they assume instead of researching the causes for things that go on in this world. And thats what he does. Yea, he knows politics, that was my mistype cause everyone has an opinion, I just think his politics is wrong.

i dont think that being against bush is the only thing green day stands for. i dont mind green day talking about politices. i personally dont agree with them that much on politics but I have my opinion and they have theirs as does everyone. even though i dont agree with them on politics doesnt mean that i dont like either music. their music isnt all just about politics, so there are other aspects that people can understand and like about green days music.

Yes, I believe you hit it right there. What is, in fact, the actual thing? That is the essence of the probelm. If there was in fact one truth, then it would have been seen by now and the problem would be resolved. He may have in fact done his research and simply came to a different conclusion. People looking at the same information can draw different conclusions about it. BJ thinks he is right, and you disagree. That is fine, but that shouldn't allow you to say that his opinion is based on lack of knowledge of the subject.

Well no, I knew that being against George Bush & The war in iraq, I was just giving an example.
& I understand completely, Music isn't just about politics, & that people can have other aspects & views to whats important to them in Green Day's music (Like not taking shit, or the love songs or the masturbation, whatever! XD) I just do believe that their political views are okay =).

Although, I do prefer the way Anti-Flag put politics compared to Green Day's, haha.

yer the ones bruce makes

That is so insanely ignorant it's not even funny.

First off, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Got it? Repeat after me. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!

And secondly, the war is making more terrorists. The more we attack them the more they want to attack us! You know, it seems like a rather simple concept, I don't understand why more people don't seem to get it...

So the war is making terrorists. So if you don't want the terrorists to attack us again, I suggest not invading their country based on lies to the American public.

Or ignore me. I'm just a psycho liberal anyway, right?

Iraq is where terrorists are located.
And for this statement "The more we attack them the more they want to attack us! "
well, if we don't attack, they'll attack us and we'll just stand by letting them kill 2382340923840234 of us?
because these terrorists want to completely destroy America and Israel
they can't exactly destroy us if they don't attack us..

Oh god, you just shouldn't of said anything at all, because you have no idea what you're talking about.
THE TERRORISTS WERE IRAQI! So OBVIOUSLY iraq DID have something to do with 9/11.

The more we attack them the more they want to attack us!
That is not a simple a simple concept! How is that a simple concept? You're leaving out all the parts that MAKE it a more complicated concept! What is wrong with you!

Invading Iraq is not a good idea, no, but you just have no idea what you're talking about.

All this political nonsense is making me cranky!



You're making it into a bigger deal then it already is, they aren't going to kill "2382340923840234" because its not tactical/

all this political nonsense is complete nonsense


christ
you don't fucking get it
THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
people want to ignore this shit
we're just going to have another 9/11
this is bloody stupid

If nobody cared about politics, why do you think there are A-levels in politics, general studies exams with a topic on politics? Why do you think that some music is based on politics and that people vote every time there is an election?

Your world would collapse without politics, and they really are not hard to learn. Get a clue.

Fuck im gonna leave this thread feeling like I dropped a whole 2 IQ points

Iraq. Didn't. Attack. Us.

Seriously, if people on the right want to argue they should at least get their facts straight.

I don't understand how us not attacking would be standing by as they attacked us since they never attacked is in the first place. Why would they /want/ to attack us? We were funding most of them!

No, Iraq physically cannot attack us.
Terrorists hiding in Iraq can, though.
Where did they find Saddam Hussein?
Iraq.

Did you ever even hear about the London bombings? That was pretty much another 9/11 kid.

You're bloody stupid, because you're not even backing up your points logically, you're just being all "OMGZ TERRORISTS ARE MEAN SO THE WAR IZ GOOD CAUSE LIKE TERRORISTS ARE BAD & STUFF & IF THEY DON'T DIEZ WERE ALL 4645757457632474632467457 GONNA DIEEE!!!!11"

Just because Terrorists are out there doesn't mean that soliders killing thousands of innocent people & raping innocent Women & Children, & killing hundreds of families randomly is worth fighting because of terrorists.

& if you had a fucking brain, you'd realize that George Bush Doesn't even care about the safety of America, He just wants to show his dumb ass father he can get oil better then him, & start all the jihad drama & act like an asshole.

He doesn't care about his people, Hes just showing off 'causes hes daddys boy, so stop freaking out about this shit.
The war is bad, & All I'M concentrating on at the moment is George Bush getting out of there so we can get the whole "Global Warming" thing sorted out so we don't all die in 40 Years, K?

So go cry about how Jihad terrorists are going to "Killz Us Allz", I'll worry about our future.

Why would you even bother saying that Billie Joe has a lack of knowledge about politics?
We can't judge him. A majority of us don't even know him.

Besides, so what if he doesnt know much about politics? He can sing about it if he wants, he's an individual who will stand up for what he believes in.

Like others have said, you don't have to have the same view of politics as Billie Joe does. But that doesn't give you a right to diss his perspective.

And to know about politics doesn't mean that you have to research and read up on it. That's an option, you can learn from that, but there's things you can learn that you can't learn in a book, or on the internet. It can't possibly cover everything. Some people who have had experience with politics can know something that someone who's read every book on the subject can't (if that makes sense )

I do agree with Billie Joe's opinion on this, I don't think that war will solve the problem that usually starts it. The only thing war will generally solve are more people dead, more sorrow, and on the other hand, more people will be pissed off.
And then another war will take place.
And it could go on and on and then who knows where we'll be?

I might be taking this too seriously, or whatever, but I just don't get it. But then again it's your opinion.

You had none to start with, You Pathetic little excuse for a good argument.

And /who/ put Saddam in power?

And if you're trying to allude to that Saddam had something to do with 9/11...if you honestly believe that, you're a lost cause.

SHUT UP.
Yes they did! EVER HEARD OF 9/11 DUMB ASS?
Or rather, Iraqis, Not actual Iraq.

Stop talking like you know what your talking about.
I sound like the next bruce, eww!



Dude that was 2 hours ago.

i agree with what he said