Righteous!

Actually I think that was the message of the movie Constantine. That if you look at Christianity objectively then we're all just tools in a bet between God and the devil.

no, a theist is someone that believe in a god or gods, and John didn't say that.

Theism: There is a god

Atheism: There is no god

Agnosticism: There is no way to know if there's a god or not

Deism: There was once a god, but now he doesn't exist/doesn't care

im catholic !

never heard of deism before

Deists generally group themselves with agnostics. There's a lot of breakdowns of it. It generally relies on the belief that the universe would require a creator, but that creator would not interfere with anything, nor would it care about humans.I am ex-Catholic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

From what I read of John's post, he said he believes there is a god, its just not in line with any religion or organization, did he not?

no he said "something almighty" not a god.

I think that's what he was implying. In the modern world, when people say "god" there is an image of the Christian god. He was trying to say he believes in a sentient deity, but not the Christian god.

well wouldn't he have to believe in one of the other religions gods then?

He said something almighty, not dictated by anything [aka. religions, etc].

He just believes theres an almighty being [aka. a god], but nothing else.

im catholic.

but in order to believe in a god, you have to have got the god from some religion. that doesn't make much sense but yeh.

Prayers DO get answered and God DOES speak to you. It's not always when you WANT to. God doesn't know time. And He'll give when you NEED it, not when you want it.

God has never changed. The God from the old testament is the exact same God as in the new tastament.

yvonne you know what you're talking about, what's a theist?

I dont have a CLUE!

you suck (kidding )

i know! hahaha
I found this with my friend google:

theist
A theist is someone who denies that God doesn't exist; an atheism denier.

A theist is anyone who believes in the existence of at least one god. There are many different kinds of theist, including monotheists, polytheists, pantheists, and more.

that's what i found too.

So its all clear right? hahaha
I mean.. its kinda vague. Does believe SOMEthing. But what?

Why? Can't you believe in a god that is singular to you? Where do you think all of those religion's "God"s came from? God does not have to have anything to do with a religion.


I know, but if you ask people about how he can be so horrible then, and so forgiving now, they'll act like he's a totally different person now. Like he went through some transformation and isn't the genocidal maniac he was then.


Harsh. Theist means believing in a god, or gods, I swear!

Then those people dont fully understand whats written in the bible. Maybe they just need to go to church more? Have the facts right before they ASSUME things by what they hear, see, read. I know its still kinda difficult to understand how its possible but if you study the bible correct, you'll see and understand.
Aaawww you are right. How could you've been doubted at ?

They fully understand, they just use it to cover up the horrifying acts that God did. I know the bible quite well, catholic school does that to you. I don't look at the acts of the old testament in any positive light whatsoever, and the new testament isn't perfect either.

I don't know how I could be doubted, it's blasphemy!

because maybe god is a woman and maybe those millenia were the certain times of the month human women encounter

ah ha. hes back and not quoting himself

haha i wasn't implying that you don't know what you're talking about. and i know that that's what a theist is, i just don't think John was referring to a god. but i guess we'll have to settle this, because we can't know unless John himself tells us.

Yeah, what's his problem not being here to clear this up.

i know, it's a disgrace.

catholic by birth though i never go to church at all

Well then I take comfort in knowing god still is a fan of infanticide and rape as he was in the old testament.No, we read the text you claim as absolute truth and take it in as it is. It's Christians who try to twist around the not so pretty parts of the Bible to give them an aesthetically better meaning. But I don't think you're doing it just for the sake of argument, I think you really want to lie to yourself. Tell your self your God isn't a revenge driven genocidal baby killer.

catholic. my parenst dont belive, and tehy arent happy with my choice. tehy think beliveing in a religion is silly, so do my brother and sister. but screw them! if i wanna be catholic, i'm gonna friggen' be catholic!

Then I find it strange that I, and all the Christians I know, DO know God and His so called 'revenge' manner. Weird that my Bible DOES teach all bad things God has done.

I believe in God, but I think all religions are stupid. Read the Bible or the Koran or whatever you want and leave it at that. The world wouldnt be so fucked up if we didnt have enormous churches, temples mosques(but mostly churches) plonked all over the world so people can shove their dopey stuck up noses in the air as they inform everyone of the church they go to.And maybe we wouldnt have wankers running around screaming " I'm a protestant, I'm a muslim, I'm a catholic, I'm a jew, youre going to hell but I'm special so I'm going to heaven."

You're basing that story on what you hear around you. Thinking we, believers, are better and DO go to heaven? No way!
We're absolutely NOT better than anyone else and it's also possible for believers to go to Hell. God's the judge up there, he'll decide in righteousness and truth.
Then you can tell me about how it's stupid that you won't know for sure if you're going to Heaven or hell, but I'm risking that faith above anything else in this world. Believing there is something like Heaven, makes me motivated to live a life as good as possible. For myself AND for others.
There's no any harm done with believing. Churches don't harm you. It's YOU that is the problem when you feel offended by everything concidering religion. We don't give you shit, so why giving it us? You gotto let go and let us do what we believe. The less drama you make from it, the less burdens you'll experience.

Religion Was a good way to controll the masses in western civilisation..still is in america, in the east it's still used to contort peoples mindsets "god wouldnt want that... kill the jews!"
People Suck when it comes to religion.. it's just one big cult that needs to die.

nipples are my religion.

You have no idea how much trouble churches have caused over the years.

Jayism FTW.

Yes, churches do cause strife amongst many people. I will agree with you there. Still, without religion, the world would be a very different place. Take into account what people do in religion versus what people do 'in the name' of religion. The major cause of controversy in the middle east is religion. No, not oil as many ignorant people would believe. The whole Israeli-Plaestinian conflict is based upon religious matters. That is how firmly someone 'believes' in religion.

And people, just because you don't physically see something doesn't mean you shouldn't believe in it. That is why it's called FAITH.

My parents are atheists and we don't go to church, but I believe in God.

Well no

I had to sleep! I work long hours!

Even I'm not sure what I meant now, but here's something pretty definitive: I believe in a form of a god, something not defined by a religion, something I think is there overseeing this whole "life, death and the universe" shebang.

Maybe I can form a new definition!

Johntheism ^{™ ©} pwns all other viewpoints.

ALL HAIL JAY!!

Did you just call something your god did "bad"? HERETIC! BURN HERETIC!How the fuck can you seriously want to "love" god? Most atheists find it shocking that people can even believe. I find it more shocking that people shamelessly would cower before a god. If god is real (hint: he's not), I stand firmly as his enemy. If I'm burning in hell, at least I'm burning as my own god.A much better place. There'd be less wars, democracy and socialism would be more widespread. Until about 300 years ago, the churches had an iron grip on Europe. It was the churches who created the class systems, led the wars, murdered thousands of innocents, and halted scientific advancement. I'd venture to guess without Christianity we may have had the technology we have now 200 years in advance.

Why do people love at all? Answer that without destroying your own argument.

I think religion has become sort of an oxymoron, it's like
"We love all mankind... EXCEPT THE GAYS!!!" or whatever.

Not all Christians think that way, but alot of them do.

Not "a lot of them", to quote your sweeping generalisation, but a loud minority. Those who have the least to say crave the most attention.

Biochemical and physical attraction, a psychological need for companionship, support in the world, and the desire to be wanted and needed.