soo.....hmn.....what to say?? umm.....if you dont like ICP, or Twiztid, or ABK, etc. why?? technically it is not rap. well....their rapping but its not the kind of rap that gets played on MTV, BET, VH1, etc. its more underground. Its almost its own genre. any opinions on this?? im not sure how to start a topic. just say something. please reply to this. i hate it when i start a topic and nowone ever replys just because the number of replys is low....sooo....yeah



*ninja*

why? why? why?

that whole thing is retarded. my brother used to be into that shit, thank god i talked him out of it....

WHAT?!?!?! you kicked someone out of the family!! woah! why do you dis??


*ninja*

I’m a shit stain slave with a grind of my own.
I work day and night, less respect than a Juggalo.
I’m frying on the outside and frozen in the center.
I’m telling you to watch out for my temper.

haha, sorry I love the less respect than a juggalo line

i've only ever heard a couple ICP songs, but that was enough for me to see that they're a joke

you green day people (lol) are makin meeh mad.....hehe....i dont see why you guys hate em so much? if you really look at the concept of ICP you get it. it doesnt really matter what quality of rapping their doing. but still...its not THAT bad....

Insane Clown Posse are really pathetic. Do you seriously believe they give two shits about their fans ? All they're concerned about is money.

They came with this stupid gimmick of a "Dark Carnival", exactly the same time their careers were failing; as if anyone can believe that shit anyways.

They rap about the same shit every album; and they try way too hard to sound "Dark" and "Sinister."

And for god sakes, they have you saying words like "Why you diss." What the fuck is that ?

And don't say I don't understand it, because I used to like them alot when I was like fourteen; I was just lucky enough to have realized how idiotic they really were.

THEY have me saying things like "why you diss"? oh my....lol...this is amusing. the whole dark carnival thing isnt some gimick their using to get money. if you understand the full concept then you see that. the whole thing is reveiled in the last jokers card "the wraith: shangrila". its whole purpose wasnt to get money. thats not what they were in it for. it was (according to ICP) about God. thats what its always been about. Heres exactly what they said about it:

"Now we have been told this carnival shit has touched many lives.
People have fuckin` sworn to us they too can feel it inside.
What is it that draws you in, this magic that compels you?
We`ve been waiting six fuckin` joker cards to finally tell you.
This messengers and hints were there, all though most never picked up on them.
We snuck em` in subliminally with that wicked shit around them.
We mentioned more and more of this on every Joker's Card.
The bottom line always the same, you aint have to look hard.
We wickedly kick it, inflict it, you get it, get with it and dig we don't preach it flat, cause some ninjas don`t wanna get with ya, they quick to forget ya without the hatchet and gat out.
So we rose the hatchet, do or die, now Juggalos standing tall, after all 6 have risen the end of time will consume us all. It aint got nothing to do with us, It aint Psychopathic Records!
All we`re doing is pointing this shit out to you, we in this together! Who`s behind the Dark Carnival, thet Gatherings and the hatchet? Who`s beind Dark Lotus, the circus and everybody at it?
Who inveted Juggalos and Juggalette and fuckin Faygo showers? What about that feeling you get when bumping our shit, who`s behind these Juggalo powers?
This ain`t no fuckin fan club, It aint about making a buck. Don`t buy our fuckin action figures bitch, i dont give a fuck. It aint About Violent J or Shaggy, the Butterfly or seventeen.
When we speak of Shangri-La, what you think we mean? Truth is we follow GOD, we`ve always been behind him, The Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find him!"


*ninja*

Ah, so it's a cult.

That's much better. Religion isn't exactly making it any more appealing to me. 'We snuck em` in subliminally with that wicked shit around them." sounds like some brainwashing bull-shit.

Seems they're just tryin' to make a buck off of religion; seems to be populer nowadays. And I don't belive they're "Not in it for the money." It's obvious they are.

hmn....you know this could go on forever...i once arugued for 2 months with someone over whether or not Kurt Cobain killed himself. i won. but its not a cult. theres no weird thing going on. lol. but i see where your coming from. and everyone is entiltled to their own opinions. im just saying that its not about making money or any shit like that. and being a juggalo/juggalette isnt only about ICP.




*ninja*

Well, I appreciate you not going all teenie on my ass; atleast you're mature about an objective opinion.

It's just, to me, I think ICP acts as some kind of venting system for impressionable teens. They're mooching off of kids who need a sense of belonging, a sense of being needed. Kind of like a "Follow me, and you'll be loved" kind of thing, wich is just another form of blindly following a religion; just masked with hip clothes.

I don't mean to offend you, it's just my take on them.

yeah i see that. but most fans (at least the ones i know) dont follow them like that. not for belonging or anything. well...not in a creepy way. their just loyal. not in a religious way like they absolutley worship them or anything weird. but...idk...you make it sound so bad..lol...most fans just arent the way you stereotype it. but thats just what ive seen.


*ninja*

No no, I'm not stereotyping anyone; nore did I say you or your friends did. I just ment, that's the impression I get off of ICP.

I do know people who sacrifice chickens because of ICP; wich is where I got the "Blindly following" theory. I just think they try to hard to mooch off of kids like that.

wow...they really sacrifice chickens?? eew...poor chicken...someone should tell them their insane cuz ICP has stated that their lyrics are not meant to be taken seriously and that anyone mentaly stable would know that. cuz if they did half the shit they talk about they would (duh) be in jail. and yeah you were stereotyping. you were implying that its a cult. that means that everyone is a weird follower person. hardly any are. those people you know are the few. sacrificing chickens for ICP is ridiculous.


*ninja*

i don't get it, are you trying to tell us "secretly" that you're a ninja or something?

insane clown posee were amazing

bring em bac
im scared of clowns tho

Yes, they really did sacrifice chickens.

And no, I did not stereotype anyone. What I said ment that ICP used their music like a cult; that they target youth's who need direction, and they cash in on it. I never stereotyped anyone.

yes i am a ninja.....
and you were stereotyping...that ios SOOO gross and mean that they sacrifice chickens...eew....they dont mean the animal...go dumbass slap them...please....


*ninja*

Okay, I have a question. How many people here like ICP (insane clown posse)? I think they suck. My friends older sister loves them they are her favorite band. She is always saying Green Day sucks and that ICP rules. She sneeks into my friends bag and writes ICP rules on her folders. They suck, she doesn't even know that much about them. You know the radio won't even play their songs. So who hates them too? If you like them could you give me a reason. I don't know if I just don't like them because she does or what but it makes me mad. Better yet who thinks GREEN DAY is so much better? Kick you're shoes off and shout it out. Tell me what you think.


GREEN DAY RULES !!!!!!!!! ROCK ON FOREVER !!!!!!!!


ICP SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! THEY MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!

okay there was no need for the pictures.
I have never heard anything by them, but their name makes me laugh.
TBH i'm not sure why you created this topic to bash them and compare them to Green day when they're probably nothing alike

i like ICP

Me too

favourite song by them?

ICP Thread

ICP i havent really herd any of their songs so IDK, but they make them selves look like a bunch of retards!

i don't want to get into any discussions like the first page of these merged threads, but yes, i am a fan, have been for nearly a decade. they are one of my two favorite bands that tie for my favorite band, ICP and metallica. not into it for any sense of belonging, i've always had that, i just enjoy the music, yet i dislike horror movies, ironically. as a matter of fact, one of the things i like about it is it's something different than kanye and snoop, the fact it's not on the radio is a good thing in my eyes. being on the radio and accepted in the mainstream leads to worse divisions among fans, a la metallica around 1991. oh, and green day not too long after. i got my screen name from one of their songs, and my name isn't even joey, it's sloan. unfortunately, as with punk and metal and any other musical genre, there are juggalos who embarass those of us with common sense and a vocabulary of more than "woot woot" and other such things you hear them say at complete random. i think i summed it up well when i said this on another forum i go to...

"while you may not like ICP, the fact of the matter is they are mulit-platinum recording artists, and have made it with very little MTV and/or radio play, even at one point (as local independent artists in detroit) self-promoting an album with flyers and whatnot, selling 100,000 copies of it before being signed to a record label. you can't say they suck, because the numbers don't lie: obviously, somone (a whole lot of us) do love them. in fact, violent j himself once said that '... while we may not like the whole spice girls thing, we can't say they ain't the shit, because they are obviously the shit to lots of people out there, look at their record sales.' so, basically, most juggalos, including myself, resent these claims of 'they suck, they've got no talent (actually, violent j says frequently that they don't have any talent, but they do have a vision, which is why they succeed),' as do any fans of a band that is hated on. we all have those bands that we hate because we don't like them, and some of them are probably some of your favorite bands. and i know that gets on your nerves when you hear someone rip into them."

ring true to any of you and how you feel when people hate on green day?

and my favorite would have to be "it rains diamonds" from the wraith: shangri-la. at the moment anyway, my favorites change with mood, or when i listen to some songs i haven't heard in awhile.

I'm so scary, they call me Joey Terrifying
Did you know that?, "yeah", no you didn't I was lying

that was the first thing that came to my head when i saw your screenname.
and i have to agree with what you said in the long post. although i'm a new fan

my exboyfriend/really good friend/Paul loves ICP and Twizted
I dont listen to them much

i have a friend/aquatence that likes ICP a lot, but i've never listened to them.

I think they look like girls, w/ big noses!

i hate RAP RAP

ICP blows. What a sad excuse for white trash to become even more trashier. I enjoy rap, but not this shit. Lame as hell.

I know this thread is old, but it is pointless to start a new one especially when the thread is here already.

They aren't as bad as everyone says they are. I just downloaded some stuff today, and I give them credit. Teir rap is different, and is more of an underground thing going on. I have a lot of respect for them.

ive heard of them.
but ive never downloaded their music

They're not that bad, honestly. You might like them.

If anything, download the song Every Halloween

okay.
ill give them a try

Thank You.

im downloading one song now.
and i previewed it,
its different

See? I really like the style they have going on, and what's great is that no one really knows about them.

true,
but its a strange style

And I like strange, my friend.

i downloaded a song called Dating Game, that was freaky, but funny aswell.
ill download some more afterwards

Ooh yay!!

I dunno but all a sudden this year theres been a lot of ICP listeners in my school. I dunno why you have to style to them like that....but im not saying its bad. Just wondering.

Nicely worded

New found ICP fan, Growing Again and Hum Drum Boogie are fucking hilarious

yeah....................................................................................................................

Damn you Phoebe. She sent me one song and now I'm hooked downloaded an album or two.

I really hate their music.
And I hate clowns in general.
Oi.

I agree. Clowns are scary. Also, there are so many ICP freaks at my school.
They suck.

haha. i've noticed how much my taste in music has changed since i joined this forum

:] i love icp.