[FlapJack Dino]

I see a lot of people go out of there way to diss him...I don't really get. I'm not a huge fan my self, i like some of his songs and I think he's a cute kid. So where do you stand on this?

[John.]

Kitsch marketed to preteens.

Not a diss, a classification. Obviously there is no artistic talent or value to his music, to critique it lyric by lyric would be completely pointless. It's kitsch sold as kitsch. To insult Justin Bieber would be to act like he falls within the realm of art at all, which would be stupid.

Just like I wouldn't compare child's play car to actual cars with engines and rate it in terms of performance, I wouldn't compare child play music to music. Made for 10 year olds, liked by 10 year olds, everyone else ignores, everyone is happy.

[FlapJack Dino]

John., on 18 May 2010 - 09:42 AM, said:

Kitsch marketed to preteens.

Not a diss, a classification. Obviously there is no artistic talent or value to his music, to critique it lyric by lyric would be completely pointless. It's kitsch sold as kitsch. To insult Justin Bieber would be to act like he falls within the realm of art at all, which would be stupid.

Just like I wouldn't compare child's play car to actual cars with engines and rate it in terms of performance, I wouldn't compare child play music to music. Made for 10 year olds, liked by 10 year olds, everyone else ignores, everyone is happy.

LOL I love that....you insult and then go an say you're not going to insult.... I get what you mean though. I just think some of his songs are catchy :)

[TinaGD]

I completely agree with John.

[Laurawr_xD]

:lol: I love how that in the poll you didn't put an option for saying you really like him :'D

[boosho]

John., on 18 May 2010 - 09:42 AM, said:

Kitsch marketed to preteens.

Not a diss, a classification. Obviously there is no artistic talent or value to his music, to critique it lyric by lyric would be completely pointless. It's kitsch sold as kitsch. To insult Justin Bieber would be to act like he falls within the realm of art at all, which would be stupid.

Just like I wouldn't compare child's play car to actual cars with engines and rate it in terms of performance, I wouldn't compare child play music to music. Made for 10 year olds, liked by 10 year olds, everyone else ignores, everyone is happy.

I totally agree with John the problem is unfortunately is he is considered and artist and lots of people like him... yes you cant compare toy cars to real cars well because its not, but if people all of a sudden (out of stupidity) decide they will use toy cars as a mode of transportation then all of a sudden that toy car is real (a very bad one but still real).... :blink:

What should have been, no longer is and we are now faced with the reality that he is an "artist" and supposedly makes "music" =/ .... In saying that i personally dont care much about him or much of he popular music these days coz lets face it, its all fucking shit.. :mad:

[FlapJack Dino]

Laurawr_xD, on 18 May 2010 - 09:57 AM, said:

:lol: I love how that in the poll you didn't put an option for saying you really like him :'D

lol...i didn't that it would be possible on this forum ;)

[Laurawr_xD]

FlapJack Dino, on 18 May 2010 - 10:04 AM, said:

lol...i didn't that it would be possible on this forum ;)

Haha :thumbsup:

[bollard_11]

John., on 18 May 2010 - 09:42 AM, said:

Kitsch marketed to preteens.

Not a diss, a classification. Obviously there is no artistic talent or value to his music, to critique it lyric by lyric would be completely pointless. It's kitsch sold as kitsch. To insult Justin Bieber would be to act like he falls within the realm of art at all, which would be stupid.

Just like I wouldn't compare child's play car to actual cars with engines and rate it in terms of performance, I wouldn't compare child play music to music. Made for 10 year olds, liked by 10 year olds, everyone else ignores, everyone is happy.

This basically sums it all up, nice one John I cant really add anymore to this. I believe he has become successful through the cuteness factor, and this is mainly aimed towards a female audience. All my friends that are fans are female and their main reason for supporting him is because he is cute, not that his music is exceptional or anything. Yes it is catchy, but catchy for children. He is a promoters dream due to this.

[FlapJack Dino]

bollard_11, on 18 May 2010 - 10:18 AM, said:

This basically sums it all up, nice one John I cant really add anymore to this. I believe he has become successful through the cuteness factor, and this is mainly aimed towards a female audience. All my friends that are fans are female and their main reason for supporting him is because he is cute, not that his music is exceptional or anything. Yes it is catchy, but catchy for children. He is a promoters dream due to this.

Ya I used to think he looked like one of those scarry puppets with the moving chins last year, but my gym, like some one pointed out in a different thread, brainwashed me :lol: sometimes I don't know whether to cry or smile awkwardly... :mellow:

[anuj_GD]

Justin Bieber?? average! i hate him!! he's just a jerk!!

[FlapJack Dino]

anujnair, on 18 May 2010 - 10:28 AM, said:

Justin Bieber?? average! i hate him!! he's just a jerk!!

a jerk?

[CaesarSalad]

hold on how old is he? ten? *checks* shit never mind.

anyways, i never liked him because i thought he was ten and ten year olds should not be concerned with love and lonely girls. they like hot wheels and tonka trucks. sing about those, justin.

[Opezi]

lame :dry:

[BJs Harmoniker]

Me I am apathetic. A lot of girls in my school like justin bieber and I say fair enough, i like green day.

but i don't think any green day fan should diss justin bieber. 5-6 years ago, it would have been "GREEN DAY ARE FAGS" not "JUSTIN BIEBER IS A FAG". We all know how that felt/feels.

anujnair, on 18 May 2010 - 10:28 AM, said:

Justin Bieber?? average! i hate him!! he's just a jerk!!

why do you hate him? did he rape your mum, no i didn't think so.

[Vaso.Of.Suburbia]

i dont care about him... he doesnt even deserve my attention

[She-Loves-Him]

I only really heard him for the first time yesterday when I watched him on Ellen, and thought 'I never thought I'd say this but he's kinda cute'

I don't understand why people 'hate' him. You have every right to not like his music and stuff, but to hate him? What did he do to you? I feel bad for him being so hated by people for no reason. If you don't like his music or anything, don't listen or pay attention to him and leave him alone.

[FlapJack Dino]

She-Loves-Him, on 18 May 2010 - 10:45 AM, said:

I only really heard him for the first time yesterday when I watched him on Ellen, and thought 'I never thought I'd say this but he's kinda cute'

I don't understand why people 'hate' him. You have every right to not like his music and stuff, but to hate him? What did he do to you? I feel bad for him being so hated by people for no reason. If you don't like his music or anything, don't listen or pay attention to him and leave him alone.

Yeah and even my little sister who really does not like him said, " oh not Justin Bieber, wait is this live? He's good live....but I still don't like him." and that was yesterday while also watching Ellen...lol

[Sarah.Scumbag]

I don't like him, I don't think he has any talent at all.
And I don't like his fans much either.
Most of them are arrogant, and completely ignorant to the fact that people have different opinions from them. The other day I had someone on my formspring trying to tell me Justin Bieber was better than Green Day. And they said something about him actually caring for his fans, so I debated back - as you would - giving examples of how Green Day care for their fans, but they couldn't give one example of how Justin Bieber cares for his. They're typical fan girls really, my friend is a huge fan and she even admits to picking up on pointless arguments with people that dislike him.

[FlapJack Dino]

Sarah.Scumbag, on 18 May 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:

I don't like him, I don't think he has any talent at all.
And I don't like his fans much either.
Most of them are arrogant, and completely ignorant to the fact that people have different opinions from them. The other day I had someone on my formspring trying to tell me Justin Bieber was better than Green Day. And they said something about him actually caring for his fans, so I debated back - as you would - giving examples of how Green Day care for their fans, but they couldn't give one example of how Justin Bieber cares for his. They're typical fan girls really, my friend is a huge fan and she even admits to picking up on pointless arguments with people that dislike him.

I agree, I don't think I could ever put my self in the typical fan group for Justin Bieber, I'm my own party I guess, but no way in hellll is he better than Green Day, ugh, that makes me sick....

[elisa]

CaesarSalad, on 18 May 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

hold on how old is he? ten? *checks* shit never mind.

anyways, i never liked him because i thought he was ten and ten year olds should not be concerned with love and lonely girls. they like hot wheels and tonka trucks. sing about those, justin.

a song about hot wheels would be epic.

[Riotfire]

I can't stand his music and I just think he's a bit creepy. Its not really his fault, its the way he's been marketed. I have a hard time understanding all his hardcore fans though.

http://www.lamebook..../05/Bieber2.png

I mean really??

[GDKaddy]

I wanna punch him in the face every time I see him on TV.

[poisonoak]

surprised to see this topic...

[Eeefaa.]

Vaso.Of.Suburbia, on 18 May 2010 - 10:45 AM, said:

i dont care about him... he doesnt even deserve my attention

Um, yeah, I'd be pretty much in the line with this :lol: but i dont agree with it because A) I'm sorry, I know he's cute, but he is not THAT cute- he's a Mammy's boy, and tbh he looks an awful lot like quite a few 14/15/16 year olds where I am and B) WTF is with the obsessive trending on Twitter? I mean really?

And neither of these reasons have much to do with his music :lol: meh, I'm sure I wouldnt mind it if I had to live with it long enough. There's worse out there.

[Hanna__]

It seems like people generally either love or hate him, but there's nothing I could say about him. I don't see anything in him, but I don't hate him.

[AnnA™]

Apathetic, I really couldn't care less. Yeah pretty much. If people like him then good for them, good for him. Not my thing at all, so I guess I just don't care.

[gdpony]

I couldnt care less about him.
musically, he's just another disney-like popstar.


I dont get how people fall for this everytime, when I was young, it started wit backstreet boys, nsync, britney, christina aguilera etc...
then it was hilary duff, lindsay lohan...now its jonas brothers, hannah montana, justin bieber, high school musical kids etc...

same thing over again, just a trend, they dont contribute to music in any way :/

[JessICA.]

Meh, like many of you said, I don't care for him.
I don't know, I see the majority of his fans like him just because he's 'cute' and not his music. I think if you're going to like a singer/band, like them for their music, not looks.

[Conspiracy.]

I really don't see the point of hating him. If you don't like his music and all, judt don't give a fuck about him.
But all the hate is probably the thing that makes him so popular.

No one will care for him in a few years anyway.